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Musings on My Largest Transformers Expenditure Ever - Transformers, Personal

Just what is a reasonable amount of money to spend on collectibles? It's a question that I imagine most every collector must ponder at some point or another, and it's a difficult one for me to answer. By their very nature, collectibles are not necessary items. Whoever recently bought Action Comics #1 for $1,500,000 did not need to do so any more so than the collector who drops $10 at Walmart for the latest Star Wars figure. Toys seem to be considered important, if not essential, for children -- "play" is an important part of development -- but while that impulse transitions for most adults into sports or video games or fishing, some of us never outgrow our love of childish things. But even that explanation is too simplistic, since few adult collectors "play" with their collections; I don't know any adult Transformers fans that spend hours rolling cars and jets around making "vroom! vroom!" and "ptchoo! ptchoo!" noises. No, there are other psychological factors in play, like perhaps hoarding, or reclaiming lost childhood. Who can say? Everyone is different. But whatever reason compels a grown man (or woman) to continue buying toys (or stamps or coins or Elvis memorabilia), there remains for each one the simple question: How much money am I willing to spend on this?

Is there such a thing as a "reasonable" amount? If so, how do you calculate that? A percentage of one's income? Speculation on resale value (assuming one ever actually plans on selling one's collection)? How "in control" are you as a collector? The truth is I don't think that any collector can answer these questions completely, and the motivations behind toy collecting are especially nebulous. The reasonability of a superfluous purchase does seem to scale up or down based on one's amount of disposable cash, but that's a no-brainer: the more money you make, the more frivolous expenditures that you (and those who observe you) can justify.

Which all brings us to FORTRESS MAXIMUS: the largest Transformer ever made, and the most expensive vintage US-released toy. Depending on condition and completeness, he can go for anywhere from $500 to $1500. Discounting Japanese imports, if you're a vintage Transformers collector, this is the figure that sets the price ceiling.

It's been about 13 years since I started recollecting vintage Transformers, and I can tell you that it was not long before I had snatched up all the $10 and $20 figures. Then all the $30 and $40 ones were acquired. These days, if I want a new G1 Transformers I will probably have to pay at least $60. (Mindwipe Mindwipe) As such I make these purchases less and less frequently. In the past, if I was talking about spending money on Transformers, I would occasionally mention Fortress Maximus as the ultimate expenditure, and people would ask if I ever really intended to spend half a grand (at a minimum) on a fucking toy. I couldn't deny that I wanted to, but I also couldn't rationalize the purchase.

I mean, half-a-grand is a significant chunk of rent. It's a couple car payments. It's food for many weeks. And half-a-grand would be a cheap price for a Fort Max.

So I ended up making a promise to myself (and whomever was listening): if I reached 35 years old, I would buy him for myself. It sounds ridiculous now, but to a 27-year-old, 35 still seems eons away, an eternity distant.

Well, guess what? Eternity is not so long after all.


This is FORTRESS MAXIMUS. He stands 22" tall.
He is heavy: if you hit someone with him, it will hurt.



He has lots of deployable weaponry. In addition to his hand-held blasters,
he has hidden weaponry on his forearms, on the backs of his hands,
on his legs, and two massive cannons at his waist.



Fort Max is the leader of the Autobot Headmasters.
Like all the Headmasters, his head detaches...



... and transforms into a robot. This is CEREBROS.
(He even has his own gun)



But Fortress Maximus is so big, that even Cerebros' head detaches...



... and becomes a robot. This is SPIKE.
In essence, this little guy is who Fortress Maximus really is.


And here's the money shot...

This is Fortress Maximus, the city.
This is how he sits, even now, beside my desk.
The city has lots of little compartments, including a jail,
an elevator, a launch ramp, and a nice Greek diner.

I actually got a really good deal on this guy. The eBay auction had very few photos, which typically makes buyers wary, but the seller assured me that all the little pieces were there, and he wasn't lying. In the end I got Fort Max, with all stickers expertly applied and in great condition, complete including the instruction booklet and his tech spec, for about $600. There's no question this was a great deal considering that I saw another one (with the box and styrofoam) go for $1,100 a couple of days before. To put it in perspective, the instructions alone can fetch $35, and either Spike or Cerebros can fetch up to $100 each.

So I did it. How do I feel about this exorbitant purchase now that it's happened?

I feel awesome. I was worried I would be disappointed, but in fact he's even cooler than I expected. I love looking over and seeing him there on the edge of my desk. He's my little buddy. Every now and then I pat it and say, "You're like the son I'll never have."

And my friends have been cool and happy for me as well. Certainly the majority of them are probably thinking that there are about a million more important things that $600 could buy, but in the context of my life as a Transformers collector, they totally understand.

What's left for me? Oh, I think when I turn 40 I'll start collecting the Japanese Decepticon Brestforce one-by-one. (That's six $100 figures that will eventually combine into Liokaiser.) And I want Deszaras, another Japanese exclusive. Maybe he'll be my 45th birthday present to myself.

But for now, and for at least a few years to come, I'm very content with Fortress Maximus, the new gem of my collection. :)

» Posted 5.7.2010 12:52:56 AM
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Awesome. Congratulations on your new arrival!
» Posted 5.07.2010 2:00:16 by Prial
When you turn 70, advanced technology will coincide with your inevitable physical debilitation that will allow you to acquire hip replacement surgery where your lower extremities can transform from legs to RascalŽ scooter.
» Posted 5.07.2010 7:50:18 by Mr. Space
Very cool. Congrats on the acquisition!

As a fellow collector (although not necessarity of Transformers), I feel a certain amount of envy and vicarious joy when I hear about someone getting that certain big or hard-to-get item. It made for some fun days working at Toys R Us way back when. :D
» Posted 5.07.2010 9:21:25 by Thumper
As a 35-year-old, and therefore one of the decrepit elderly, I have to say that I haven't found it any easier to justify these kinds of expenses at my advanced years.

Thankfully, I got my FM back when I could do so comparatively cheaply.

Now get off of my lawn!
» Posted 5.07.2010 9:41:55 by Mark Baker-Wright [Website]
(Oh, by the way, congratulations on your acquisition!)
» Posted 5.07.2010 9:42:51 by Mark Baker-Wright [Website]
This is one of those times when one person starts the slow clap and everyone joins in.....so here it goes

CLAP...............CLAP.........CLAP
» Posted 5.07.2010 12:03:30 by monuo_ripts
Stickers look DAMN near PERFECT.
» Posted 5.07.2010 17:44:44 by Ryan
Mega Congratulations! I actually purchased my Fort Max at 35 also which was a few years ago for me. :( Must be something about that age that draws us to him. The Fort Max Quickening perhaps? LOL

Actually I didn't think I would get him. He was/is damn near a perfect specimen IMO. Except for being opened with stickers applied, he is very minty fresh. In addition to box and styrofoam the owner even kept the used sticker sheet. Since this was as close as I was going to get to MISB without shelling the mega bucks I threw a bid out there for fun. I thought for sure I'd be easily outbid and I was. I was to some extent disappointed but I really didn't need to spend that much. However the seller came back to me with a second chance offer a day later. It turned out the winner was from outside the US and the seller specifically stated no out-of-US bidders.

I had 24 hours to make my decision. I pondered all the way up to almost the last minute. I finally said WTF I want it I want it I WANT IT! I was in a decent place financially and I figured I wasn't going to get an opportunity like this on Fort Max again. So I spent the $1100 and I have to say as painful as that number was to swallow I was as giddy as a school girl when I finally received that package and opened it. I never fully appreciated the awesomeness of Fort Max until met him in person. That ultimate transformer that escaped my clutches since childhood was mine. My precioussss. LOL
» Posted 5.07.2010 21:19:25 by Nukéote
I have a similar goal... I have promised myself that someday, I will be well off enough to be able to buy an Overlord and not feel the smallest twinge at however silly high the price is by then.
» Posted 5.08.2010 14:46:50 by MiryClay
Well, I'd like the thanks everyone for their kind words! It seems this is a topic to which we can all relate. :)
» Posted 5.08.2010 15:28:36 by Botch the Crab - WEBMASTER
I'm still looking for the Fort Max tech spec :).

Congrats on your acquisition!
» Posted 5.08.2010 16:52:44 by Slim [Website]
Cool beans! That is a sweet looking Fortress Maximus!
And while it might sound expensive for a toy, people are dropping that much money on iPads, and they don't even do as much...

On a somewhat related note, I was reading an article the other day about the psychology of consumer satisfaction. Apparently, when purchases are "object oriented," they tend to be less satisfying than if they are "experience oriented." That is, a person who spends sixty bucks on, let's say, a collectible plate feels less satisfied than someone who spends the same money on a concert ticket. However, the study indicated that consumers could be trained to perceive "object oriented" purchases as "experience oriented." It sounds like that might be the case here. Your purchase of Fort Max wasn't simply about acquiring an object; you made it about a transition in life. It wasn't simply that you saved up to get a toy; you calculated the purchase as part of a celebration of who you are.

You transformed a thing into an experience, which (according to the argument) might be why you seem more satisfied with it than if you just bought it because you could.

That, and he's a pretty awesome object...
» Posted 5.08.2010 18:08:50 by Tresob [Website]
>>> And while it might sound expensive for a toy, people are dropping that much money on iPads, and they don't even do as much...
Ok, this made me laugh out loud. ;)

And I think you're exactly right about experience-oriented purchasing, Tresob. It's the real key to all collecting.
» Posted 5.09.2010 11:29:14 by Botch the Crab - WEBMASTER
I missed my chance for a Fort Max several years ago, and cant see another in the future. I have a very understanding wife, but not THAT understanding. Sadly since marriage, kids etc. she seems to think that buying Transformers is a very low priority..... Theres no hope for some people!
» Posted 5.10.2010 3:29:46 by Simon W
All win, 'nuff said...
I turn 34 this friday... gotta adjust that gift list for next year...
» Posted 5.11.2010 10:31:31 by ginraii
Congratulations dude!!!

Fort Max is such a cool toy and I'm so glad you got him and are enjoying him. Got it at a pretty good deal too.

I was reading your post and kept wondering whether you just got something really expensive and then I saw the pics, wow! Great stuff. I think its perfectly justifiable to spend that amount on 'the ultimate Transformer' and the gem in your collection, hey, people spend that amount on booze and clubbing in a month.

On the note of largest Transformer expenditure, I just bought this 2 days ago: http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/44139/2691904450100811158S600x600Q85.jpg
http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/43631/2389908100100811158S600x600Q85.jpg

(this one, I pondered over for days, consulted my wife for her opinion endlessly and consulted 2 collectors and 1 non-collector friend) I just want to forget how much I paid for it.
» Posted 5.13.2010 10:46:02 by heroic_decepticon [Website]
Very nice acquisition H_C!
» Posted 5.13.2010 10:53:32 by ginraii
Kudos! Definitely better than buying an iPad. LOL
» Posted 5.13.2010 12:27:19 by Bzero [Website]
I think anyone who has G1 transformers, and is of a certain age (I'm 33) will be able to easily justify the amounts of cash you're talking about. Imagine how hard it would be without eBay? I gave up with Transformers in 1990, gave them all away, then started trying to reacquire them from around 1996 - The Internet and eBay wasn't really a factor at that point, so it was left to conventions. The Internet has made life much easier, especially for UK based collecters like myself, where some of the G1 originals weren't even released (Constructicons, Shockwave, Swoop, etc).
» Posted 6.06.2010 11:45:32 by CPH
Yeah, I'm a comic book collector, always wondering how much 'too much' is. But once you splurge that money it usually feels pretty good. Like you said though, the only drawback is you want MORE!

So glad I got rid of my Transformers, I have none at all now, and I know if I'd carried on I would be a financial ruin. That Fort Max is awesome indeed. Dammit!

» Posted 7.30.2010 11:15:01 by Eye-melt
Argh! You've acquired my (current) grail and for an insane price! Congrats! Someday I will own him too!
» Posted 8.15.2010 21:50:34 by Trifomis [Website]
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